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06 August 2011 @ 01:21 am
This Borders Employee Did NOT Get Paid  

Don't know if this has happened to any other Borders employees, but I did not get paid last Friday (July 29). My last work date was July 12 and it was suppose to be my final paycheck, but it never showed up at the store or my house. I confirmed the store turned in my hours.  I've contacted Borders HR several times through different avenues, and nothing has happened. I can't even get them to return my phone calls any more. Has this happened to any other current or former Borders employees? What recourse do I have if Borders refuses to pay me? And maybe this is a warning to other Borders employees - maybe you shouldn't make any firm plans for that final paycheck, because they may screw you like they apparently have me.

(Anonymous) on August 6th, 2011 05:44 am (UTC)
The Kronos system records every punch you make on the clock and connects it to your employee number, so if you were supposed to be paid for a period and weren't sent a check within the first week after store closure, call the payroll department immediately. HR is basically non-existent and they won't help you. If you need the number, go on the web and find the main Borders number or just call another Borders that's still open and ask to talk to the GM. If you get the brush off from the payroll office, you have every right to pursue legal recourse. I'm sure it'll all work out for you, just hang in there :-)
(Anonymous) on August 6th, 2011 06:34 am (UTC)
I don't know if this is still the current Payroll number, since I haven't had to call them for a few months but the number I have is 1-800-331-9036.
(Anonymous) on August 6th, 2011 06:45 am (UTC)
unless your bsr
BSR stores don’t punch in the same way as at bss so that could explain the error, if your bsr.

THAT OR Your scumbag lying liquidator
(Anonymous) on August 6th, 2011 12:51 pm (UTC)
Re: unless your bsr
If the last work date was July 12, the OP's hours would have absolutely nothing to do with the liquidators, as they didn't show up on scene until 10 days later.
nimblepunishmnt on August 7th, 2011 02:35 am (UTC)
Re: unless your bsr
Which means that paycheck is probably sitting in the store atm. If you have direct deposit I would assume it would've gone into your account. If not, I'd stop by your store and see if it's there. I was under the impression you get your paycheck sent to you after your store closes, not if you quit (assuming your store didn't close when your last date of employment was).

Feel free to correct me about whether or not your store is still open or not =P
(Anonymous) on August 8th, 2011 01:42 pm (UTC)
Re: unless your bsr
Worth noting: companies that know they're shutting down will sometimes shut off the direct deposit without saying anything. It's legal, but annoying as hell.
(Anonymous) on August 6th, 2011 07:54 am (UTC)
Yep, we did screw you. This is going to be quite the lucrative year for me, I both screwed the ex-borders employees out of their payment and I don't have to pay any taxes at all on the millions of dollars I make thanks to the Tea Party. Now I'm off to vacation at a resort with my other CEO friends, and as for you, you're off to work for peanuts at another corporation making yet another CEO rich.

Liquidation Company CEO
(Anonymous) on August 6th, 2011 03:46 pm (UTC)
stop preaching
Ok so you hate the tea party... stop preaching. No one is fooled into your political views make any diffrence here.

Hate the tea party on your own time jerk!
(Anonymous) on August 6th, 2011 11:36 pm (UTC)
Re: stop preaching
Don't you have some of my customers to ring up, peasant?

Liquidation Company CEO
(Anonymous) on August 7th, 2011 03:42 am (UTC)
Re: stop preaching
Ahh, the intelligent discourse and borderline grammar of the typical Tea Party supporter.
(Anonymous) on August 8th, 2011 04:20 pm (UTC)
Re: stop preaching
Get back to work, hourly fucks!

-Jim Frering
(Anonymous) on August 12th, 2011 12:40 am (UTC)
Re: stop preaching
He/she's hating the tea party on my time too, and I like it.
(Anonymous) on August 6th, 2011 03:25 pm (UTC)
Why so angry?
I don't get the hostility toward the liquidator(s). They aren't the ones who created this mess and their bid was the only one at the end. They're just doing their job.

I know some liquidators are jerks, but many of them are decent people trying to help everyone get through this ghastly process as painlessly as possible.

(Anonymous) on August 8th, 2011 12:04 am (UTC)
Re: Why so angry?
they are ALL assholes who enjoy stomping on people's spirits, just as corporate did. don't play dumb. They didn't create the mess, they're just smearing it like shit all over our faces, that's all.
(Anonymous) on August 8th, 2011 05:18 am (UTC)
Not true
The liquidators are not all a**holes. Ours has been great. She has treated us with compassion and respect. In return we are making the best of sad situation. That said, we are enjoying being able to say no and not taking any crap from customers.
(Anonymous) on August 8th, 2011 06:11 am (UTC)
Re: Not true
you obviously lack insight if you think any of those self-righteous fucks are good decent human beings. they're fucking machines, like combines in a junkyard, and they get off on destroying peoples' lives with impunity. the worst ones are those who pretend they're out to help the little joe schmo employee like you...that cunt wants your soul.
(Anonymous) on August 9th, 2011 04:00 am (UTC)
Wow melodramatic much?
Actually I think they are trying to do a job that gets little respect and even less thanks. Kinda like many of us.
(Anonymous) on August 10th, 2011 03:38 pm (UTC)
Re: Wow melodramatic much?
First of all, all they do is sit on their fat asses in the back office and talk on their cell phones and check sales figures from minute to minute. They don't even talk to the staff. Part of their 'job' should be to be kind and compassionate and help make all the transitions easier for the staffers, from the GM on down.

Then yesterday I overheard one liquidator tell another that we're all, quote, "like sheep to the slaughter" and he "gets a kick out seeing us squirm every time." So don't give me that 'we're all working people' bullshit platitude. They don't give two shits about doing a good job. We're somewhere between indentured servants and slaves at this point. If I wasn't a keyholder, in line to get a retention bonus, I'd quit on the spot and take a tire iron to my liquidator's car on my way out of the parking lot.
(Anonymous) on August 14th, 2011 12:04 pm (UTC)
Re: Why so angry?
The liquidating company does not have any interest in employee relationships. The relationship is temporary and impersonal. That is just the way it is. They do not love you.
They are just a business that provides a service. That is all they are. If you expect any thing more, you are seriously delusional.
I would not be surprised that some who operate for this company are jaded and ungracious in their attitudes towards the former employees. They see people like you all the time and have, no doubt, encountered all manner of attitude from the people doing the grunt work. But, it is all only temporary. They have no need to please anyone. All they are there to deal with is the job of getting the merchandise out of the store.
(Anonymous) on August 15th, 2011 01:38 am (UTC)
Re: Why so angry?
"Honey, I'm home!"
"Hi, dear. How was work today?"
"It was treeeemendous! I sat on my rotund ass and made a killing off the blood, sweat, and tears of a bunch of raw-nerved underemployed peons today who also have families to support."
"That's nice, dear. I'm so proud of you. So you brought home plenty of bacon?"
"That I did, my love!"
"Speaking of which, go and put your bib on! It's bacon for dinner!"
"Oh boy, shovel it in, ARGHHH ARGHHH ARGHHH..."

After eating, LIQUIDATOR gets up, moves to his easy boy chair, and collapses in it, while his son TOMMY, who'd been watching Bonanza on TV, turns and instead watches him curiously. TOMMY gets up and goes to his dad...

"Um, mommy?"
"Yes, Tommy?"
"I think Daddy's heart stopped."
(Anonymous) on August 6th, 2011 03:30 pm (UTC)
As someone stated above, you don't call HR about this; you call Payroll. They're different departments.
(Anonymous) on August 6th, 2011 03:58 pm (UTC)
I lost my last day
When our store liquidated in April, my last day of work was a Sunday.
The next day I got a fedex with my last paycheck that included my hours through Saturday, not Sunday.
Not worth the bureaucratic effort to attempt to collect my additional 8 hrs@7.75 per hour. Just another example of how my work for Borders was valued by the powers that be.
Fortunately for me, Borders was just my fun job. My real job in IT for a non-profit both compensates me and values me. But even months later, I do miss my stores, co-workers and my customers (even the outrageous ones!).
(Anonymous) on August 6th, 2011 04:39 pm (UTC)
Now that we are working for the liquidators will we receive our checks as normal? i.e., on Friday and will there be direct deposits?
(Anonymous) on August 6th, 2011 09:09 pm (UTC)
That sucks, but to be fair, I quit about 2 weeks after Borders filed Chap. 11. Why anyone would stick around until the end and total annihilation and then expect money is beyond me.
(Anonymous) on August 7th, 2011 02:02 am (UTC)
It's great that that plan worked for you, but you're an idiot if you think this was an option for everyone.
nimblepunishmnt on August 6th, 2011 09:35 pm (UTC)
Has your store closed already? If not, would you even been sent a check? I would think that you would have to go pick it up at your store.
(Anonymous) on August 6th, 2011 11:54 pm (UTC)
When our store closed in April, we got our checks not in direct deposit, but sent to our houses.

The only problem was that no banks would take the checks because they were not signed at all.

It took our interim GM (who stayed the whole time and never got paid as a GM) and the CSC at the big store in the next town to get the monies to us as our DM deserted the store the minute our store made the list.

The DM wouldn't return our calls or emails.
(Anonymous) on August 7th, 2011 12:26 am (UTC)
ou Said: took our interim GM (who stayed the whole time and never got paid as a GM)

Sounds like your interm GM was screwed, they made that same "no extra pay" offer to our BSS ops manager when the GM left and she said no way. She was going to quit and then out of the blue the scumbag liqudator made a offer for full GM pay.

Don't settle less than full GM pay!
(Anonymous) on August 7th, 2011 12:28 am (UTC)
I wouldnt take that no pay raise bs either.
(Anonymous) on August 7th, 2011 02:42 pm (UTC)
If it was the Burleson store, and it sounds liek it was, then the DM made the IS the interim GM not the liguidaors.
(Anonymous) on August 7th, 2011 03:39 am (UTC)
When my store closed in April everyone got their last check without any problems, mailed to their address on file. Those with direct deposit still got direct deposit and the last "check" mailed to their house.

Your mileage may vary ...
(Anonymous) on August 7th, 2011 04:01 am (UTC)
let me try to help
I am a current GM and should be able to get a firm resolution from my current HR rep/payroll team. bporter@bordersstores.com. Email your details. Then we'll talk when I am at the store.

Honestly, I have not had any trouble getting my folks paid, this time or in the Spring.
(Anonymous) on August 7th, 2011 08:40 pm (UTC)
Re: let me try to help
Slightly off the subject, but do you ( or anyone else here) know how to access "theworknumber.com"? I know the company code, but after that I'm lost. What did Borders set up as our usernames and pin numbers?
(Anonymous) on August 7th, 2011 10:51 pm (UTC)
Re: let me try to help
Your username is your ss# and your pin is the last 4 digits of your ss#.
(Anonymous) on August 7th, 2011 11:38 pm (UTC)
Re: let me try to help
(Anonymous) on August 8th, 2011 06:13 am (UTC)
Re: let me try to help
typical borders grunt...helpless, hapless, hopeless. why don't you help YOURSELF instead of having some mother hen cunt help you out?
(Anonymous) on August 7th, 2011 10:05 am (UTC)
Department of Labor
I don't know what state you are in, but if you are in California, it couldn't hurt to contact the Department of Labor. If your check has been wrongfully withheld, they may owe you pretty substantial fines once this is determined. I'm not sure if the rules are different during a liquidation, but in Cali, you are supposed to get your check within 24 hours of your resignation or being terminated. The company gets a little more time if you quit say,late on a weekend, but in general this is a forseeable circumstance and you should have gotten your money on time. And Kudos to that nice GM who has offered to help! Your attitude is one of the reasons I loved working at Borders for so many years!
(Anonymous) on August 8th, 2011 05:38 am (UTC)
Possibly it is your gm' fault
Our store has gotten paid like clockwork since the bankruptcy (except for the bouncing paychecks). Payroll is being sent the same way it has always been, as far as I know. Borders is legally bound to pay you all the monies you are owed.
(Anonymous) on August 8th, 2011 10:39 pm (UTC)
Your last check will come in the mail, like mine did...
(Anonymous) on August 10th, 2011 03:06 am (UTC)
No paychecks
We had an employee quit just after liquidation began and he didn't receive a check either. Come to find out he had taken too much vacation time as it hadn't had enough time to accrue. If we had stayed in business and he stayed on the job he would have accrued the vacation time. Just an FYI for you full-timers.
(Anonymous) on August 11th, 2011 06:53 am (UTC)
Re: No paychecks
Something like that happened to me. I've worked full-time at Borders long enough to get 4 weeks (20 days) vacation a year. Back in March or April, I scheduled all of it, my last vacation day to be 7/14. Thought I had beaten the system when the collapse of the company was announced, but, instead, I received no pay for my last week off. No one at our store could get an explanation of this, but our guess was what you said happened to your co-worker. I'm still working, but they must be figuring that our year will end at the end of September, if, in fact, they assume I will accrue 3 weeks, instead of 4, throughout 2011. It would have been nice if someone from Payroll had let me or the management at our store know, though, instead of just depositing about half of the money I'd expected into my account for one payroll period. I guess it's just another example of the hearty thanks for a job well done that we're all receiving. So, if, in fact, full-timers are going to get unused vacation time paid when we get laid off (and who knows if that will happen?), let me caution you, Don't count your vacation hours before they accrue.
bordersscrwdme on August 13th, 2011 03:41 pm (UTC)
This Borders Employee FINALLY Got Paid
Took much more energy than it should have, but I finally received my final pay yesterday. Thank you everyone who made suggestions, offered help, and commented on my predicament. I'm just so glad it's over.