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19 September 2011 @ 12:12 pm
What did people make?  
Now that it is over, I'm curious what the various positions made on average.  Anyone know baseline salaries for Sales Managers, General Managers, and District Managers?  Were they different based on cost of living?
(Anonymous) on September 19th, 2011 06:47 pm (UTC)
I wasn't a manager myself, but in CA, where managers were hourly rather than salaried, I know my IM made $14/hr. Not sure how that compared to the other managers in the store.
(Anonymous) on September 19th, 2011 07:01 pm (UTC)
fucking grunt ISs made more than MSs like me! $3 more an hour to just sit in the back receiving room not having to be service manager or even deal with customers at all! lowlifes.
(no subject) - (Anonymous) on September 20th, 2011 01:58 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - (Anonymous) on September 23rd, 2011 12:38 am (UTC) (Expand)
(Anonymous) on September 19th, 2011 07:05 pm (UTC)
$9.00 an hour
Sigh. Book seller
(Anonymous) on September 19th, 2011 07:39 pm (UTC)
BSR assistant mangager. $13.57/hr, Houston
(Anonymous) on September 19th, 2011 07:41 pm (UTC)
^ *manager, of course. *sigh*

I wonder how much the store manager made. I suppose I'll never know.
(Anonymous) on September 19th, 2011 08:00 pm (UTC)
Part-time keyholder - $10.50/hr (California)
(Anonymous) on September 19th, 2011 08:05 pm (UTC)
Keyholder/Bookseller - $10.71/hr (Pennsylvania)
Abin Sur on September 19th, 2011 08:25 pm (UTC)
What possible difference does it make at this point?
It was retail, low-paying by nature. If you had some kind of "manager" position (and I use that term lightly when it came to Borders) someone was probably willing to cough up a few more dollars an hour. If you were a GM you made great bank (at least ours does). Same everywhere.
weaselusrex on September 19th, 2011 08:54 pm (UTC)
Back in 2000, my cafe manager made 24k/year, by California state law the minimum you could pay someone and call them a manager.
(Anonymous) on September 22nd, 2011 09:44 pm (UTC)
Yup. I made $23,000 a year as a cafe manager in Philly circa 2000.
(Anonymous) on September 19th, 2011 09:16 pm (UTC)
Corporate Sales Coordinator for the bottom half of 5 different states.
(Anonymous) on September 19th, 2011 09:16 pm (UTC)
Employee files
Does anyone from the home office know what happened to the employee files and other HR info? There's a lot of sensitive data on that paperwork. We shipped everything to AA when our store closed, so nothing was left in our building, but now that there is no AA left, I'd like to know what happened to it.
(Anonymous) on September 19th, 2011 09:50 pm (UTC)
Re: Employee files
They get sent to Iron Mountain and either shredded and recycled, or burned.. mostly shredded..
Re: Employee files - (Anonymous) on September 20th, 2011 12:18 am (UTC) (Expand)
Re: Employee files - (Anonymous) on September 21st, 2011 04:46 am (UTC) (Expand)
bookboss83 on September 19th, 2011 09:57 pm (UTC)
I started as an AM in a BSR back in 07 and started @ $9.50. I was promoted to manager in that same store in 09 and hired @ $32K (averages out to about $16/hr)When I hired my AM in 09, the base pay had increased to $10.25. My keyholders were @ $8.80 and everyone else was at minimum wage which in IL is 8.25.
(Anonymous) on September 20th, 2011 12:55 am (UTC)
What's the point?
Don't quite understand why you want to know this but there were different scales of compensation. It cost more to live in NYC than in a rural area so salaries were adjusted to area. Usually, the SM started in the low thirties and GM started in low fifties. There were a few bonuses by meeting certain goals but not a huge sum. Also, there were ceilings but not too many got that far especially with the lack of raises in the past years. Some begrudge the Mgrs salaries when compared to a bookseller's but if you never walked in their shoes, you wouldn't believe the crap/BS and pressure they had to deal with on a day to day basis from DM's and above. Was hardly worth it.
(Anonymous) on September 20th, 2011 01:51 am (UTC)
If I heard right:
Borders, Downtown Boston, 120 is:
GM: 50-55K
Sales Manager: 30-35K
Cafe Manager: 40K
Cafe Supervisor: 14/hour
Bookseller: 8.50/hour
Tom Murphy (can't remember title) was 40K
(Anonymous) on September 20th, 2011 01:53 am (UTC)
And a typical supervisor made 10/hour. I make more than that now at my movie theater, non-supe ^_^
(no subject) - saultnutz on January 19th, 2012 05:44 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(Anonymous) on September 20th, 2011 02:52 am (UTC)
Sales Mgr in IL..$30K/yr..I think our GM cleared about 45K/yr..previous GM before that was over $50K/yr.
(Anonymous) on September 20th, 2011 03:21 am (UTC)
Southeastern PA--GM started at $42,000. SM, IM, OM, started at $32. Supervisor start rate varied, but was around $9.25. Bookseller rate started at $7.75.
(Anonymous) on September 20th, 2011 11:05 pm (UTC)
Merch Sup in Southeastern PA - made $11 an hour after being there for 5 years.

woodnut on September 20th, 2011 05:48 am (UTC)
As a TS in 2005 (in NJ), I made $8.75 to $9/hr. Booksellers there at the time started at $7.
KanojoNoCarrera on September 20th, 2011 05:56 am (UTC)
I have no bloody clue.
(Anonymous) on September 20th, 2011 06:11 am (UTC)
GM in SoCal
(Anonymous) on September 20th, 2011 08:43 am (UTC)
GM in SoCal
(Anonymous) on September 20th, 2011 03:34 pm (UTC)
Not sure about management. But at our store in Maryland booksellers made 7.75, csfe sellers made 8, cafe supe made 11, as IS i made 10.75, the pevious IS made 11 and the mms made 11.12. When i was a part time keyholder i made 8.75
(Anonymous) on September 20th, 2011 05:21 pm (UTC)
Keyholder-book seller
$8.40 an hour after many, many years.

(Anonymous) on September 20th, 2011 07:25 pm (UTC)
Re: Keyholder-book seller
Pretty much the same situation. I was up to about $11.50/hr which I thought was pretty good...three years ago. I found out there was a cap at my review, but it wouldn't have mattered since they weren't giving out any raises.
(Anonymous) on September 20th, 2011 05:22 pm (UTC)
Store Manager $24k
Store manager at Waldenbooks, making $24k in the 1980's.
(Anonymous) on September 20th, 2011 05:52 pm (UTC)
I was the manager of a BSR and the only one paid hourly in my district. I made 16/hr.
(Anonymous) on September 20th, 2011 07:34 pm (UTC)
Really?! Why were you hourly?
(no subject) - (Anonymous) on September 21st, 2011 01:49 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - (Anonymous) on September 21st, 2011 10:18 am (UTC) (Expand)
(Anonymous) on September 20th, 2011 06:27 pm (UTC)
Borders GM: $45,000
Bookseller: started at $7.50, but we usually hired-in at $8. Some booksellers at our store made up to $13/hr., because they had been there so long.
Supervisors: $9.00/hr.
Sales Manager: $32,000/yr.
(Anonymous) on September 21st, 2011 04:01 am (UTC)
Re: Ohio
I heard that some in OH were in the high 50s, low 60k range.
Re: Ohio - (Anonymous) on September 21st, 2011 04:47 am (UTC) (Expand)
(Anonymous) on September 21st, 2011 12:49 am (UTC)
Assistant manager at a BSR, $9.50 an hour, after working there for about five years.
(Anonymous) on September 21st, 2011 12:04 pm (UTC)
Started as SM/OPS in 02' at 30k, and left in 10' as GM making 51k. I know that some DM's started in the 80k range, but this was before the Jones years. I know this because of a new DM that was upset they were being paid this rate, which was the same rate as a GM in a district they were looking over at the time.
(Anonymous) on September 28th, 2011 02:53 pm (UTC)
I was a GM in CA. Prior to that, of course, I was a Sales Manager. As an SM, I made $17.50 an hour. As GM, I was given a salary of $65 K a year. I worked up until the week prior to liquidation when I left for a different job. I didn't know for sure what was happening, but I was burnt out from doing retail so I opted to look and got very lucky prior to the fall.
Re: CA GM - (Anonymous) on September 28th, 2011 04:42 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(Anonymous) on September 21st, 2011 02:26 pm (UTC)
BSR booksellers $8.50 per hour (OR min wage).
BSR keyholders $9.00 per hour.
BSR assistant manager $12 to $14 an hour.
BSR store manager $33,606 a year.